Wednesday, October 7, 2009

Solar has been designed to meet expected needs !

This is the final design on the solar only portion of the renewable electrical system for the mountains.
This is not a system a typical home owner can install by yourself.

If interested you can try a local contractor and see if he has "TREIA"
(Texas Renewable Energy Industries Association)
class 1 design and installation certification.

Charging System

REC 220 watt PV panels

Solar array only. These panels are rated at @7.7 amps , voltage 28.7 full sun ,
and open circuit voltage 36.0

Uncompromising Quality
The REC AE-US Series is a high-quality series of solar modules designed to meet exceptional standards for system and module performance.
• REC manufactures its own silicon, wafers, cells and modules and does extensive quality control throughout the complete production process. REC can be depended upon to provide a secure, steady supply of modules that are manufactured to the highest standards of quality from beginning to end.
The REC AE-US Series utilizes:
• 60 high efficiency, multicrystalline 6.14 inch (156mm) square cells.
• Specially treated tempered glass that provides outstanding performance in low-light conditions.
• Glass is rated to withstand 3/4 inch hailstones at 120 miles per hour. The modules are designed to withstand heavy snow and wind conditions.
• The easy-access rear junction box has built-in bypass diodes to minimize the effects of shading.
• The laminate’s Tedlar backing and anodized aluminum frame ensures many years of peak performance.
Quick Installation
Multi-Contact Solarline 2 MC4 locking connectors allow quick and easy inter-module connection, and system installation. The MC FlexSol double-insulated output wiring provides for safer array wiring, and makes the REC AE-US Series compatible with the use of transformerless inverter technology. This insures that the REC AE-US Series is ready today to work with tomorrow’s inverter technologies.
Environmentally friendly Products & Processes
The REC AE-US Series generates reliable and environmentally friendly electricity. The cell and module production processes are designed to maximize recycling and reduce environmental impact. REC polysilicon is manufactured in the US (Moses Lake, WA and Butte, MT). REC wafers, cells and modules are manufactured in Scandinavia.

Price = $ 660.00 X 8 = $ 5280.00 @ 100% = 62.1 charge amps full sun summer @ 24 volts)
@ 80% = 49.6 charge amps (cloudy or winter)

Battery Bank


Part #
B-4-KS-25PS 4

Amp-Hours 1350

dc volts = 4

weight 315 lbs


This new generation, deep cycle, flooded lead acid battery offers high capacity and heavy duty plate grids which resist positive plate breakdown. The plates are double insulated with glass mat and polyethylene envelope, eliminating the possibility of separator misalignment, cracked separators, and shorting.

Each 4 volt cell is built into its own lightweight container made of durable polypropylene. The cells are then assembled into a tough outer container with a removable lid. Even if this outer container cracked, acid spills are prevented and the battery still operates. The individual cells are bolted together allowing the battery to be disassembled and the cells individually removed for easy on-site installation.

Price = $1150.00 x 6 = 24 volts = $ 7000.00 plus shipping.

This is the heart of the system.

Rated at 3200 Cycles at a 50% Depth of Discharge. Ten year warranty: three years full warranty; and then seven years pro-rated warranty

Inverter: 24 volt x 3500 watts AC @ 120 volts


input volts dc 24

output watts 3500 ac

note from denziel , (ac/watts 3,500 @ 120 volts = 29.1 countious amps single phase max . So with an inverter draw @ 25 amps ac = battery discharge rate per hour = 125 amp hours.)

Cost $2295

weight 60 pounds
FX Inverter with optional covers
Left side- FXACA
Right side- FXDCA
VFX/FX Turbo are true sine wave inverter with battery charger and 60 amp automatic AC transfer relay. Output is 2000 to 3600 watts continuous. Surge of 70 amps AC for 1msec each. These inverter can operate alone, or with up to eight together. No-load power used is 3 watts when in automatic sleep-mode (on loads on); or 20 watts if programmed to keep AC on full time. Peak efficiency is greater than 90%. The FX series is completely sealed against dust and moisture, the die-cast aluminum housing protects and cools with the externally mounted fan for greater battery charging results..
Battery charging current ranges from 35 amps to 125 amps depending on the model.. Automatic programmable generator start is included.

Battery Meter
Outback MATE system controller, optional accessory, connects to the FM60 as a remote control. MATE duplicates the built-in control panel that comes with the FM60 and FM80. MATES can also program and remote control Outback inverters, from a location 300 feet distant. MATE includes a RS232 computer port for data logging.


Maximum Power Point Tracking
To Boost Solar Amps
For 12 Through 48 Volt Batteries
Can also charge 12 or 24 volt Battery
from up to 72 Volt PV Array; not to exceed 150v open circuit
Multi-stage charging: Bulk, Absorption, Float, and Equalize.
60 amps of DC output current to charge batteries at 12, 24, 32, 36, 48, 54, or 60 volts DC. Regulation voltage is adjustable from 13 to 80 volts DC.
Maximum Power Point Tracking Since the control can boost output current, solar input equal to 48 amps of charging is maximum recommended for the FM60 (maximum rated output: 60 amps) and 64 amps for the FM80 (maximum rated output: 80 amps).
Use higher voltage PV array with lower battery voltage -like charging a 24 volt battery with a 48 volt PV array- reduces wire size and power loss, while increasing the distance possible from the PV array to battery. Accepts any array voltage up to 72 nominal volts and matches to any lower battery up to 48 volts.
The four-line 80 character, backlit LCD display standard on the Outback FM60 and FM80 displays the PV system's performance. It is also used for easy programming and monitoring of the system's operation. Terminals accept up to 4 gauge wire.
Outback MATE system controller, optional accessory, connects to the FM60 as a remote control. MATE duplicates the built-in control panel that comes with the FM60 and FM80. MATES can also program and remote control Outback inverters, from a location 300 feet distant. MATE includes a RS232 computer port for data logging.
C-FM80 Outback Charge Control...............$680 (shipping $15)

The system I have selected will produce enough electricity to operate at 10 amps ac continuous without charging the battery's for 13.5 hours until 50% discharge state of battery bank is reached.

The system will have a generator with auto transfer switch to recharge until sun is back to full brilliance.

Generator 6500 watt Koler @ $2200.00

The system materials cost $13.000.00 plus freight and install

Standard code correct electrical construction will be performed by me.

estimated cost for electrical installation $ 2200.00

materials $ 2300.00

Total cost outlay for initial installation investment $ 22.000.00 - 30% federal tax credit= $ 6600.00 = $15.400.00 after tax credit in 2010.

This is considered an " Active conserving home " system with a life expectancy of 25 years or more with proper maintenance.

This should be good for my family until cold fusion has been realized and made practical for consumer usage.

I predict this to evolves in the next 20 years , cold fusion fuel cells for energy needs on a residential level.

To some the cost is outrageous and to other's a necessary part of life ,what ever you opinion is ,In today's world of uncertain conditions it's a real deal to me.

There will be more to come .




  1. WOW! Really impressed. I already knew you were a very talented electrician but this is very good and I bet it will really look NEAT.

    I am going to email my sister who lives on Lake Sam Rayburn. Everyone she talked to up there was quoting her 30-40M. I don't think they knew what they were talking about.

  2. Hey there , TexasMan !

    I was a kid when I lived in Jasper , Texas on the back 9 at the golf course , My father was an assistant pro there for many years and know the lake very well .

    If she want's consolation have here contact me , here off my site address.I can advise her to a better system ,



  3. D, that is no Camp set up. That is the perfect setup for anyone who wants to move off grid and live comfortable like you said until cold fusion comes out which by the way will solve a myriad of issues including drinking water shortage. I like your choice of Geni, Koler is reliable, quiet, and clean running.

  4. OGT ,
    I thought you would like the system as outlined.

    My budget will allow for a wind turbine also , just have not found the right on yet ,It's going to be around 800 to 1000 watts and will cut down on gen set run time and fuel.

    I get great west winds during the fall and spring and steady north during the winter months.Will rely on solar during summer months,

    The turbine will add $4000.00 to total cost, but will wait for the best deal on the fan.

    I got plenty of time. but would like to get up and running before December 31st for tax credit this year , but don't think I can get it approved till 2010 ?



  5. Thats a pretty aggresive time frame, but do able.

    dont you have a creek or something on your property? You really should use one of those little blue hydro turbins for creeks.

  6. OGT,

    no running water up here!

    and if so,thats the first device I would have installed.